Archive for August, 2009

Which Lord of the Rings character are you?

August 26, 2009


You are most like Frodo. You’re very friendly, and you have a great personality. Although you like to have fun, you can also be pretty serious at times. It’s pretty hard to get you mad, but once you’re mad…everybody better look out! Keep that temper under control and realize that you’re better off than you may think.

Cute, although there weren’t enough elves and orcs in the quiz for a true LOTR experience. Take the test yourself.



August 22, 2009

A smack as part of good parental correction should not be a criminal offense in New Zealand. Or so say 87.6% of people in the recent referendum.

The story made even made it to Fox news.

New Zealand Votes to Legalize Smacking Kids

New Zealanders voted overwhelmingly to overturn a law that prohibits parents from hitting children, according to the results of a nationwide referendum released Friday, but the government says the law is working and won’t be changed.

Opponents of the 2007 law claim it is overly intrusive and could turn thousands of good parents into criminals.

The story gets it a little wrong in that the 2007 law DOES turn thousands of good parents into criminals. It COULD turn them into convicts.

It is time for the anti-smacking lobby to shut up and let the majority frame a new law.

Perhaps just adding a new sub-section to section 59?

” a smack as part of good parental correction is justified. This sub-section overrides any other sub-sections in this section”.

But really, the best approach is simply to strike out the 2007 amendments and return to the old reasonable force law. And wonder, “What were they thinking…”

What if the plumber doesn’t do pipes?

August 15, 2009

…or if the Archbishop does not know the word of God?

David Moxon,¬† Anglican Archbishop of New Zealand appeared on Radio Rhema recently to put a case for the “yes” answer to the question¬† “should a smack as a part of good parental correction be a criminal offense?”

Aaron Ironside asked him to describe the biblical evidence supporting his position. From his answer, David clearly doesn’t know what God’s word says, which is surprising since he is the chief overseer of the Anglican church in New Zealand. David made a number of points about the biblical witness, which were almost all wrong, and missed out a few important bits. Note that my record of David’s on-air statements below are not word-for-word from his mouth as I do not have a transcript of the show.

David Moxon: In proverbs it says “spare the rod and spoil the child”.

This is not actually found in the bible, at best it is a loose paraphrase. Proverbs does say “He who spares his rod hates his son, But he who loves him disciplines him promptly.” and “The rod and rebuke give wisdom, But a child left to himself brings shame to his mother.”

David Moxon: The rod is a shepherd’s staff, not for beating, but for direction and guidance.

This is a blatant lie. David seems to have missed the part where it says “Do not withhold correction from a child, For if you beat him with a rod, he will not die. You shall beat him with a rod, And deliver his soul from hell.”

David Moxon: In the new testament we find Jesus laying hands on children.

This is correct, if fairly irrelevant to the topic.

David Moxon: And Jesus says that whoever hurts one of these little ones, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone around his neck.

What Jesus actually says is “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.” The whole point of the teaching of physical discipline from proverbs is to prevent the children from “stumbling” by correction. I invite David Moxon to consider that by advocating the criminalization of physical discipline he may in fact be held accountable by God for children whose parents subsequently fail to administer loving discipline.

The bits that the Archbishop missed out include probably the most direct new testament treatment of the practice of a father’s discipline. The letter to the Hebrews explains that God himself physically disciplines the sons that he loves:

And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons:

My son, do not despise the chastening of the LORD,
Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him;
For whom the LORD loves He chastens,
And scourges every son whom He receives. (Proverbs 3:11-12)

If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live? For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness. Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

The scourging talked about in this passage is the same thing that happened to Christ as he was scourged by the Romans prior to the cross.

There is more to the biblical picture of a Father’s discipline, none of which came from David Moxon’s lips. God says of his priests:

My covenant with Levi was one of life and peace, and I gave them to him. It was a covenant of fear, and he feared me. He stood in awe of my name.
True instruction was in his mouth, and no wrong was found on his lips. He walked with me in peace and uprightness, and he turned many from iniquity.
For the lips of a priest should guard knowledge, and people should seek instruction from his mouth, for he is the messenger of the LORD of hosts.
But you have turned aside from the way. You have caused many to stumble by your instruction. You have corrupted the covenant of Levi, says the LORD of hosts, and so I make you despised and abased before all the people, inasmuch as you do not keep my ways but show partiality in your instruction.

“Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.” I hope David Moxon takes these words to heart and works quickly to repair some of the damage his misleading survey of the biblical witness has already caused.

As an aside, I was also amazed that Aaron Ironside, who must by now have some familiarity with the biblical witness, did not call David out on-air for his falsehoods and omissions.

Do not withhold correction from a child,
For if you beat him with a rod, he will not die.
14 You shall beat him with a rod,
And deliver his soul from hell.