Pete Collier on Genesis 1

Pete Collier preached a message on Genesis 1 on Sunday. Through the wonders of the web you too can listen to it. Pete is NOT a six day creationist, I am. So cards on the table, lets make some comment on Pete’s talk.

I particularly like the way that Pete espoused a high view of the bible. He says that science should never override the bible, and rightly so. He said some good things about the six-day creation view PRIOR to putting his own non-six day view. Pete did not exactly describe his own view probably because he sees the main point of this chapter of scripture as being:

There is one God who created everything by talking. His creation is purpose built, good, ordered and structured.

He rightly notes that the obvious meaning of Genesis 1 would be a six day creation, but he has a problem because he has heard too many people say:

I don’t accept the bible because I don’t think the world was created in 6 days.

So his overriding advice to the six day creationist is

Don’t make the reliablity of the bible stand or fall on 6 days

Personally I subscribe to the view of John Karmelich in rule #6 of how to study your bible “If the Plain Text Makes Perfect Sense, Seek No Other Sense”.

Pete gives a number of reasons why the six days might not be literal days, here they are:

  1. Gen 1:5, “day” can mean just the light bit of a 24 hour day, and evening and morning are called a day here too. My answer: Yes a day is both the light bit and 24 hours, but when Gen 1:5 says “and there was evening and morning, the first day” this encompasses the whole period from when God first spoke. One day is: God speaks, time begins, light comes into being, evening comes as the watery earth rotates, and finally the morning of day two heralds the end of the first day.
  2. Gen 2:4, “in the day God created the heavens and the earth”, but Gen 1 says God created it all in six days, so “day” can mean 6 days. My answer: The phrase “in the day” means “when” OR it refers specifically to day 6 when God finished his work of creation.
  3. The sun is not created on day one, what is a day without the sun? My answer: A day is foremost a period of time, marked out by the Sun from day four.
  4. Gen 2:4,5:1 and 6:9 are all historical passages which begin the same way. Gen 1 does not begin with the same phrase, this suggests it is not historical.
  5. Other passages such as Daniel 12:11-12 possibly aren’t meant to be literal days

Unfortunately Pete did not present the strongest argument for a six day creation though. God says it was six days in terms that are totally unequivocal. Exodus 20:1,9-11 “And God spoke all these words, saying:”

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

I personally cannot conceive of God meaning anything other than “I made everything in six days” here.

You can also read more of my views on Genesis 1 and 2.


One Response to “Pete Collier on Genesis 1”

  1. ropata Says:

    I respectfully disagree with your position

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